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To people of Belarus from occupied Serbia
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StrogHold
2006-03-19 19:07:55 UTC
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Don t let them to occupy you as they occupied Serbia.
There is no better life in democracy we can sincerely say after 6 years
of "democratic changes". Fight bastards from Us and Soros payed NGO s.
Fight bastards from OTPOR. Democracy only means robbery, and there is
no justice for poor.

Long live Russia, Belarus, Serbia

Save stronghold of freedom
Ihar
2006-03-20 14:35:51 UTC
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What a miserable sod you are! In Serbia you have experienced what we
have in Belarus - an extremely corrupt system which has nothing to do
with democracy or freedom. If your country is occupied by anyone, they
are those shameless compatriots of yours who steal from their own
people. The same is happening in Belarus.

Your message is extremely insulting to me for a number of reasons among
which is suppression of my own language in my own country by the
government which insists that I must regard it as my own government.
What can be more humiliating than that?

I have lived in Britain for seven years and did not see so many drug
users, alcoholics, all kinds of desperate people there as I see in
Belarus. Why it happens? Because stealing money, falsifying elections,
encouraging uncritical loyalty and paying no attention to system of
bribary on all levels of the society are distroing honesty in the
society and the will for moral living. This is, unfortunately, is the
policy of the government of Belarus.
Z***@yandex.ru
2006-03-20 22:45:57 UTC
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Dear Sirs, I'm Russian scientist, Ph. D, and very often go to
Belarus.
In contrast to you I know the actual state of affairs in this wonderful
state.

Firstly, calm yourself, StrogHold.

In fact (not legally) Belarus is being the part of Russian Federation.
This is why our Russian government gives full support to Belarus and
its president Lukashenko. This support includes low prices on oil, gas;
we supply Byelorussian army with weapons etc. Now Russia and Belarus
are on the way of integration process. So, such pseudo-democratic
states as US and Great Britain will never be so adventurous to attack
Belarus. Because in this case Russia will answer with nuclear weapons.
The Russia is not Iraq, Iran or Serbia. So Belarus is under the safe
nuclear shield of Russian Federation. Bush and other western political
figures tremble in impotent rage because they were unable to replace
Lukashenko with their political prostitutes as it was in Ukraine or
Georgia.

Secondly, Lhar. I suppose you have never been in Belarus. This
beautiful country doesn't deserve your insults. Lukashenko is
absolutely honest and clever man. Byelorussian people love him.
"Falsification of election" is ravings of madman. I see you are
getting the information from lying news lines from BBC, CNN and other
western false mass media. The entire World knows that all British and
American newspapers, TV programs are being censored by its governments.
You can't know this, of course, because people of Western Europe are
zombied by its governments and mass media.

Thirdly, unfortunately the moral level of Byelorussian people is higher
than in England. Also the overall number of drug users, alcoholic and
other antisocial personalities in GB exceeds this number in Belarus for
a few times!

Loathsome British and American model of democracy you can see in
destroyed by GB and USA bombing Iraq, Serbia, Vietnam and other
independent in the past countries. Now all of these states have
marionettes governments from USA.

Independent Russian observers say that elections in Belarus were
absolutely honest. Only Western Europe and their Baltic henchmen say
that elections were falsified. It is absolute delirium. But Lukashenko
and Russia doesn't care a damn about your opinion. And you can't
change anything in Belarus. Just try! Your British government, Lhar, is
a crowd of scoundrels. If you want to know the true about Belarus read
Russian and Belarus newspapers or visit Belarus.

Regards,
Yuri
b***@nyx.net
2006-03-22 20:46:25 UTC
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Post by Z***@yandex.ru
Secondly, Lhar. I suppose you have never been in Belarus. This
beautiful country doesn't deserve your insults.
No, it doesn't. And obviously, saying that a country is run by a
dictator is an insult to that country. It all makes so much sense!
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
Lukashenko is absolutely honest and clever man. Byelorussian people love him.
Yes, they must love him very much to give him 82.6% of the vote. He is
a true man of the people, yes? We support him in his noble crusade
against the running dogs who protest!
F***@gmail.com
2006-03-24 21:45:11 UTC
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Post by Z***@yandex.ru
Dear Sirs, I'm Russian scientist, Ph. D, and very often go to
Belarus.
Dear sirs, i'm only an italian supporter of freedom in the world
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
In contrast to you I know the actual state of affairs in this wonderful
state.
Oh,great,u're an expert! :-)
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
Firstly, calm yourself, StrogHold.
In fact (not legally) Belarus is being the part of Russian Federation.
This is why our Russian government gives full support to Belarus and
its president Lukashenko. This support includes low prices on oil, gas;
we supply Byelorussian army with weapons etc. Now Russia and Belarus
are on the way of integration process.
So everything happens in Belarus,Russia is involved!
So Russia supports people with oil and gas and supports government and
army with weapons, do i understand well?
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
So, such pseudo-democratic states as US and Great Britain
..US and UK which have a pseudodemocratic history from before II WW and
not democratic as Russia which comes from a great history of
Stalinistic democracy and with a liberal President who comes from the
old democratic Kgb
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
will never be so adventurous to attack
Belarus. Because in this case Russia will answer with nuclear weapons.
Are u scientist? And are we in 2006? It seemed to be back in early ' 80
reading Soviet announces...Time flies but not for u ;-)
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
The Russia is not Iraq, Iran or Serbia. So Belarus is under the safe
nuclear shield of Russian Federation. Bush and other western political
figures tremble in impotent rage because they were unable to replace
Lukashenko with their political prostitutes as it was in Ukraine or
Georgia.
Infact in Ukraine there are elections and people is choosing a new
president and propably they'll change the old one that wasn't good for
biggest part of population...this is the biggest defect of
democracy...people have power on government and not the fear to change
government and its henchmen as in Belarus.
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
Secondly, Lhar. I suppose you have never been in Belarus.
This beautiful country doesn't deserve your insults. Lukashenko is
absolutely honest and clever man.
Yes,i confirm he's honest! He promised that he'd arrest people who
didn't think like him and he kept promise.
And he's really clever too! He pressed and forced people using police
and kgb until international press arrived for election's day! He's
really honest and clever...how i wish to have him and kgb as my
neighbours...don't u know if he rents me a room? Kgb boys have a lot of
rooms but now opposition boys occuped all of them!
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
Byelorussian people love him.
Sure! They love him and they call him Luky!
Iraqi people loved Hussein a lot too,u could see him in Tv
everywhere... Germans loved Hitler, we italians loved Mussolini,
Serbians loved Milosevic, and also Ceausescu last minutes of his life
was so lucky to meet in the square the romanian people who loved him so
much! I wish Luky will walk by alone in the streets of Minsk so
Belarusians can love him as he deserves!
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
"Falsification of election" is ravings of madman.
Yes...it's only a fruit of mad minds grew in capitalistic undemocratic
states :D
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
I see you are
getting the information from lying news lines from BBC, CNN and other
western false mass media. The entire World knows that all British and
American newspapers, TV programs are being censored by its governments.
You can't know this, of course, because people of Western Europe are
zombied by its governments and mass media.
Yes..the problem of western people is that we have a lot of tvchannels!
Everyone says a thing and then can say the opposite,and so all the
newspapers! That's why we become crazy and zombies! We are not so lucky
as in Belarus where all the medias say only the things which Lukashenko
wants!!
I think western countries are not the perfect states in which we could
live...but perfect democracy is still far to arrive. But we, i mean as
free people in the world,not as u that writes paid from your country,WE
have a moral need to support the part of people of Belarus who asked
more freedom and Luky understood more prison
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
Thirdly, unfortunately the moral level of Byelorussian people is higher
than in England.
And i'm honestly happy for them :)
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
Also the overall number of drug users, alcoholic and
other antisocial personalities in GB exceeds this number in Belarus for
a few times!
Maybe because police and kgb outnumber sum of 10 democratic states's
police effectives? :D
I'm sorry for Belarusian boys and girls,i know i shoudn't joke on this
dramatic situation but he's so funny!
All normal persons know that a democracy is a good inverted relation
about number of people and number of controllers. If police outnumbers,
something doesn't work!!!
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
Loathsome British and American model of democracy you can see in
destroyed by GB and USA bombing Iraq, Serbia, Vietnam and other
independent in the past countries.
Yes...u forgot that US bombed Afghanistan and Cecenia too...they also
suppressed people's rebellion with tanks in Prague in 1968,u saw
everything on Soviet television...oh..sh#@!!!Sorry,i didn't remember
that URSS did! Damn! i'm really ignorant in Hystory...
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
Now all of these states have
marionettes governments from USA.
Independent Russian observers say that elections in Belarus were
absolutely honest.
The only independent observers in the world?????
I think Russia and Amerika are very similar for this way of thinking!
They are the only right country..everything they say it's the real
truth!
Before or after, u'll have a Silvio Berlusconi as President and when
he'll speak, all the world will start to laugh of you!!!
When these 2 nations will start to think to help people only for
helping them and not only for using them as pieces to move against
Enemies we will have really a better world...
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
Only Western Europe and their Baltic henchmen say
that elections were falsified. It is absolute delirium. But Lukashenko
and Russia doesn't care a damn about your opinion.
We know perfectly u don't care about other's opinions...but the problem
is that u don't care health's opinion owner too!!!As Belarusian
opposition missed person would confim that, if they could!!
People of Belarus, future is in your hands, not in America's hands,
Russia's or in their Puppet Lukashenko's hands!!! All the free men of
the world are with you!
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
And you can't change anything in Belarus.
We can't but free Belarus people can do it! People, you are the real
power of the world and there is no State that can resist to the will of
people and Belarus people will win because you have all the free people
of the world who support you! You are not alone, not States but free
people are with you,remember!! All free European boys and girls,
russian, polish, estonian, lithuanian, swedish, dutch and italian boys,
americans and all the others are all with you!! I was with you in
Oktyabrskaya Square Sunday and Monday and i was screaming "Free
Belarus"! Police forced us in office for controls but in the night we
were there again!! And there were students from many nations we met in
the square because will of freedom has no borders and doesn't stop on
Belarus or Russia borders!! Freedom entered Sunday in Minsk and will
remain with you forever!!
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
Just try! Your British government, Lhar, is a crowd of scoundrels. If you want to
know the true about Belarus read Russian and Belarus newspapers or visit Belarus.
Yes,sure, we will visit Belarus, all boys and girls who wish freedom
will come to support our belarus friends and brothers who need an help
until FREEDOM will wave on Oktyabrskaya Square!!
The age of Freedom is born the day Internet opened the world's
borders!! No states will be far from Freedom waves!
Free people, free thinking, Free Belarus!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Z***@yandex.ru
Regards,
Yuri
Kisses and deep hugs from free Belarus people

***@gmail.com
b***@nyx.net
2006-03-29 06:04:12 UTC
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Post by F***@gmail.com
Sure! They love him and they call him Luky!
Iraqi people loved Hussein a lot too,u could see him in Tv
Yes! President Hussein was the most beloved of all! He got 100% of the
vote the last time he ran. Not like hated Western politicians who
rarely get more than 60% of the vote. I think they criticize Lucky
because they wish they could get 82.6% of the vote! Yes, it's all
making sense!
Post by F***@gmail.com
everywhere... Germans loved Hitler, we italians loved Mussolini,
Serbians loved Milosevic, and also Ceausescu last minutes of his life
was so lucky to meet in the square the romanian people who loved him so
much! I wish Luky will walk by alone in the streets of Minsk so
Belarusians can love him as he deserves!
Lucky cannot do that, for people would be so happy they would faint in
the street! He is always thinking of the people!
StrogHold
2006-03-22 15:53:22 UTC
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Post by Ihar
What a miserable sod you are! In Serbia you have experienced what we
have in Belarus - an extremely corrupt system which has nothing to do
with democracy or freedom. If your country is occupied by anyone, they
are those shameless compatriots of yours who steal from their own
people. The same is happening in Belarus.
Your message is extremely insulting to me for a number of reasons among
which is suppression of my own language in my own country by the
government which insists that I must regard it as my own government.
What can be more humiliating than that?
I have lived in Britain for seven years and did not see so many drug
users, alcoholics, all kinds of desperate people there as I see in
Belarus. Why it happens? Because stealing money, falsifying elections,
encouraging uncritical loyalty and paying no attention to system of
bribary on all levels of the society are distroing honesty in the
society and the will for moral living. This is, unfortunately, is the
policy of the government of Belarus.
I can speak of my experience because I saw both of systems. I wasn t
part of ruling elite neither before, neither after so called
democratic changes. I hate politics, but things I am looking now,
make me furious. Looting and lies. State owned factory worth million
sold for 3 euros.(price of consumers market included). Money and
company monopols connected with political oligarchy talking lies about
better living standard, like in communism, but ordinary people see
quite opposite things. Things are changed from bad to worse. Same
situation in Serbia as in US. Do you really believe six maior world oil
companys will wage the war of prices against each other or they will
simply arange agreement.Then your job is to work harder, pay more for
fuel, and be silent. It isn t question at all, that the regime of
Slobodan Milosevic was corrupt. Of course it was. But main broblem is,
that in "free market democracy" corruption is legalized, and it is only
reason why seems to us, that there is less coruption. Difference
between old and new political order lies in responsibility. It is very
easy to accuse Lukashenko or Milosevic because you can see them as the
leaders, but who is responsible in "free market democracy"? Topple
one politically puppet, and here is the other with same role and same
policies. Real mony masters stay hiden behind the scene intangible.
Money in politics results in theirs power and our responsibility. Power
with no responsibility. Ideal dictatorship for 21 century. Maybe in
Belarus some falsifying elections, but in Washington and Belgrade
money lords legally buying electoral outcomes. It isn t big problem for
you Ihar ? You fight against banksters from Wall Street and I will
against Lukashenko for better world. Have we deal Ihar?
vello
2006-03-25 18:06:23 UTC
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But where is your media? Here in Estonia easiest way for journalist to
make himself popular and get well paid is to digg out dirty things done
by politicians or superrich folks. People love stories about "big boys"
in trouble if their affairs are unmasked. Well, Luka may control media
in Belarus, but you have private media, looking for readers, for
success (=money), not for some worthless smile from prime minister?

Best,
Vello
Ihar
2006-03-29 14:03:25 UTC
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Sinse last year, almost all Belarusian newspapers which were not
controlled by the state were either closed by the government or lost
the only available in Belarus channel for mass distribution - through
subscribtion or sale, because it is monopoly of the state. We lost
almost all uncontrolled by the government weekly newspapers. There is
no radio or tv stations where disagreement with Lukashenka could be
expressed.

It is impossible to expect from "private media, looking for readers,
for
success (=money)" in Belarus to express the opposition to the goverment
- success in Belarus depends on loyalty.

vello
2006-03-26 17:30:36 UTC
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Post by StrogHold
Don t let them to occupy you as they occupied Serbia.
Is Serbia occupied? By media Serbia is not occupied just one part
(Kosovo) is under international control?

Best,
Vello
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